Unfortunately Charlie, this is one topic I differ with you on. The proposed mine is for the extraction of metallurgical coal. This will not be used to generate electricity and therefore could be replaced with alternative generation methods. It is used in the manufacture of steel. Not again as a heat source but as an element (carbon) that must be mixed with iron to create steel.
The demand for steel, as you can imagine, is of global importance. The corporations that seek to mine the Crowsnest pass area will simply find another mountain to mine elsewhere if not approved here.
And this is where I differ. Canada has some of the most stringent mining regulations in the world. Our citizens are capable and empowered to give oversight. In most regions of the world, these regs and oversight simply don't exist. From a global perspective, having the coal mined here is the best option. If they go elsewhere, you can be sure the environmental damage will be far greater.
Interesting you should bring this up today, Charlie. Do you know Corb Lund by any chance?
I silently asked you that very question while browsing the WNC website yesterday, confirming that there is no way for anyone outside Alberta to sign the petition, because after all who else would care outside of Albertans? I ended up doing the only thing I was allowed to do as an Ontarian; I bought some merch in the online store. And I listened to some of Corb's music, and his CBC interview. His campaign against coal mining has cost him dearly.
I spent some time about 18 years ago working on the wind turbines in Pincher Creek, and whenever I could I drove the company truck (on my own gas) into the headwaters of the Oldman River, and many other areas surrounding the Crowsnest Pass, and also contemplated the hubris and nemesis of the Frank Slide, a scar on the landscape still visible from space more than 120 years later.
(Oh, there's this mountain which the natives called "the mountain that walks", and they would never camp anywhere near it. The geological strata of Turtle Mountain are so tilted that the mountain is constantly coming apart and sending down rockfalls and landslides, due to the repeated freeze/thaw cycles in the fractures at the summit. But there's a layer of decent coal in there to feed the railway locomotives, so naturally (as a superior non-superstitious white businessman) you dig a tunnel at the base of the mountain, and you set up a townsite there, and then your workers excavate galleries steeply upwards into part of what is holding the mountain together. And then in 1903 you act surprised, as if nobody could have predicted this, when a big chunk of the mountain falls down in the middle of the night, right on top of the town of Frank at its base. The official death toll is still uncertain, at least 90, but that only includes documented town residents. It does not include the many undocumented transient workers living in the tent city on the outskirts of town. Most of the victims will remain entombed forever under hundreds of millions of tons of rock.)
(I'm sure there's a parable in there somewhere for these times.)
(Oh, and the miners who were on shift when the mountain fell down? They dug themselves out, all the way through to the surface which wasn't as far away as they expected, and then, already given up for dead, they walked back into what was left of their town and their homes and families. Bringing their pit pony and their one dead comrade with them.)
... And I got a chance to visit the town of Waterton and the beautiful lake and the surroundings before much of it was devastated by a wildfire. No connection of course.
I love that unique part of the world and I'm glad I had a chance to see it. I don't want to see it destroyed.
I 👀 their talk. I do not understand how they can even rekindle the idea of coal mines, as Sask is also doing. Such a waste of taxpayer's $$$ with no real gain. The clean up will be costly & other countries are going
" clean energy". Won't even have a market for this crap. May the ,"KEEPERS OF THE LAND" not allow this stupidity. We pretend to be " what kind of society????". Not looking to the future if this is allowed. Let's BUILD instead of TEAR DOWN. 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦💪💪💪💪 along with Alta ,- DS.
I can't believe this is a thing. There are low cost energy options, why are we even talking about coal.Spent a couple of years working at a coke oven(coke is baked coal) and saw 1st hand how disgustingly dirty it is.
Read Jon Auger’s post today The Eastern Slopes Corridor.” Just restacked. We’re being very deliberately kept dumb and focussed only in a small part of the issue as Smith keeps our attention on only one piece. Peter Lougheed back in 1976, thankfully understood how huge the issue is. And Jon Auger’s post is eye opening!! Please read and object more and sign Corb Lund’s petition. Get family and friends to sign also.
this neo-liberal/maga/trumpler mentality are hostile towards nature, women's rights and all people's rights, shame on them. The only way that they get power is when folks choose not to vote or do not critically think concerning the candidates of choice. This is happening in the midst of this government attacking healthcare and wanting to separate from Canada and join trumpler's efforts to annex our country, as hitler did poland and putin the Ukraine. The post-covid world has seen a big shift to the right, fascism, here in our country! We all know how that turned out but in the meantime people suffered. We still have a chance here to stand up together as canadians and say no to this maple/maga attacks on our sovereignty, resources and lands. This is the time for all citizens to take a stand and become an activist, if you love our country, Canada! Elbows up folks and sign the petitions and be active in shutting Smith's maga government down.
This is a must watch Documentary on coal mining in the Eastern Slopes covering the history of the moratorium right up to Corb Lund’s sponsorship of the Water not Coal petition collecting signatures right now. Check out the Lethbridge Raging Grannies’ performance at the end.!We are out every week leading our Street Rally Friday noon hour protests at busy intersections drawing attention to the laundry list of issues, and
collecting Water not Coal petition signatures. The Granny Resistance is active here in Lethbridge and Pincher Creek, in the heart of the eastern slopes!
Wishing High River and the people of Alberta success in their battle to save the headwaters of the Highwood River. Here we are fighting to save the headwaters of both the English Wabigoon and Turtle River systems in Northern Ontario where the nuclear industry wants to abandon their high level nuclear waste underground. It looks like our Prime minister Carney and his buddy formerly of Goldman Sachs, Tim Hodgson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources are trying to force a bunch of nuclear projects through, without proper scrutiny, like the Monark Reactors up in Peace River. At present this nuclear scheme is at phase 2 of an impact assessment however this process is being circumvented by handing all nuclear projects over to the The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission (CNSC) which is a notorious rubber stamper for the nuclear industry. If we look Carneys shares (now in a blind trust) the centerpiece of Brookfield's nuclear portfolio is its 51% majority stake in Westinghouse Electric Company.
Meanwhile on another critical minerals project (magnets for American jetfighters, F35's) for the Pentagon being shepherded through the approval process by Hodgson, Canadians through the Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB), provided $165 million in financing to Torngat Metals for the mine in northern Quebec. The Canada Infrastructure Bank previously approved a $55 million bridge loan for the project and is considering an additional loan for up to $500 million for access infrastructure. Looks like Canadians are being suckered into financing more projects to American billionaires close to Trump.
Recently, CBC's the fifth estate investigated Montreal-based Torngat Metals and its Strange Lake rare earth mining project in Nunavik, Quebec. The documentary, titled "Critical Threat," highlighted the project's massive scope, controversial U.S. political ties, and resistance from local Indigenous communities concerned about radioactive waste and caribou.
Good to see the pushback against the MAGA crowd that are trying to take over the Canadian Government from the Prime Minister down.
Wishing Jenny Yeremiy and High River, Alberta, Mayor Craig Snodgrass success in their battle against Danielle Smith’s coal mining scheme.
Again Charlie. We are dealing here with some MAGA Albertans, who like their American cousins, celebrate corruption and male masculinity. They celebrate and honour those who make the most money by any means possible , caring not for whom they hurt. MAGA corrupt maniacs, the most selfish , criminals on this planet.
Thanks Charlie. I absolutely support Corb Lund and the petition to stop, forever, any coal mining in Canada and the Rockies. This must not go through. All Albertan Indigenous members and their families must stop this ludicrous damaging project.
A teck coal project has never been turned down by an environmental minister who then took a great paying job at teck immediately after leaving their elected position, that needs to change.
I'll be in the river valley in Edmonton today with the rest of Corb's fans to sign the petition. If I were not going today, I was bound and determined to sign a petition.
ALOHA. From the coconut wireless. ........................ Stand up for your rights. ...................
Unfortunately Charlie, this is one topic I differ with you on. The proposed mine is for the extraction of metallurgical coal. This will not be used to generate electricity and therefore could be replaced with alternative generation methods. It is used in the manufacture of steel. Not again as a heat source but as an element (carbon) that must be mixed with iron to create steel.
The demand for steel, as you can imagine, is of global importance. The corporations that seek to mine the Crowsnest pass area will simply find another mountain to mine elsewhere if not approved here.
And this is where I differ. Canada has some of the most stringent mining regulations in the world. Our citizens are capable and empowered to give oversight. In most regions of the world, these regs and oversight simply don't exist. From a global perspective, having the coal mined here is the best option. If they go elsewhere, you can be sure the environmental damage will be far greater.
Interesting you should bring this up today, Charlie. Do you know Corb Lund by any chance?
I silently asked you that very question while browsing the WNC website yesterday, confirming that there is no way for anyone outside Alberta to sign the petition, because after all who else would care outside of Albertans? I ended up doing the only thing I was allowed to do as an Ontarian; I bought some merch in the online store. And I listened to some of Corb's music, and his CBC interview. His campaign against coal mining has cost him dearly.
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-429-what-on-earth/clip/16200378-a-fight-coal-corb-lund-f-ing-totally-exasperated
I spent some time about 18 years ago working on the wind turbines in Pincher Creek, and whenever I could I drove the company truck (on my own gas) into the headwaters of the Oldman River, and many other areas surrounding the Crowsnest Pass, and also contemplated the hubris and nemesis of the Frank Slide, a scar on the landscape still visible from space more than 120 years later.
(Oh, there's this mountain which the natives called "the mountain that walks", and they would never camp anywhere near it. The geological strata of Turtle Mountain are so tilted that the mountain is constantly coming apart and sending down rockfalls and landslides, due to the repeated freeze/thaw cycles in the fractures at the summit. But there's a layer of decent coal in there to feed the railway locomotives, so naturally (as a superior non-superstitious white businessman) you dig a tunnel at the base of the mountain, and you set up a townsite there, and then your workers excavate galleries steeply upwards into part of what is holding the mountain together. And then in 1903 you act surprised, as if nobody could have predicted this, when a big chunk of the mountain falls down in the middle of the night, right on top of the town of Frank at its base. The official death toll is still uncertain, at least 90, but that only includes documented town residents. It does not include the many undocumented transient workers living in the tent city on the outskirts of town. Most of the victims will remain entombed forever under hundreds of millions of tons of rock.)
(I'm sure there's a parable in there somewhere for these times.)
(Oh, and the miners who were on shift when the mountain fell down? They dug themselves out, all the way through to the surface which wasn't as far away as they expected, and then, already given up for dead, they walked back into what was left of their town and their homes and families. Bringing their pit pony and their one dead comrade with them.)
... And I got a chance to visit the town of Waterton and the beautiful lake and the surroundings before much of it was devastated by a wildfire. No connection of course.
I love that unique part of the world and I'm glad I had a chance to see it. I don't want to see it destroyed.
I 👀 their talk. I do not understand how they can even rekindle the idea of coal mines, as Sask is also doing. Such a waste of taxpayer's $$$ with no real gain. The clean up will be costly & other countries are going
" clean energy". Won't even have a market for this crap. May the ,"KEEPERS OF THE LAND" not allow this stupidity. We pretend to be " what kind of society????". Not looking to the future if this is allowed. Let's BUILD instead of TEAR DOWN. 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦💪💪💪💪 along with Alta ,- DS.
I can't believe this is a thing. There are low cost energy options, why are we even talking about coal.Spent a couple of years working at a coke oven(coke is baked coal) and saw 1st hand how disgustingly dirty it is.
We will be, but it will be too late. The damage is irreversible.
Read Jon Auger’s post today The Eastern Slopes Corridor.” Just restacked. We’re being very deliberately kept dumb and focussed only in a small part of the issue as Smith keeps our attention on only one piece. Peter Lougheed back in 1976, thankfully understood how huge the issue is. And Jon Auger’s post is eye opening!! Please read and object more and sign Corb Lund’s petition. Get family and friends to sign also.
And you can always buy merch or donate wherever you are from waternotcoal.ca
Thanks much!
From waternotcoal.ca
Okay. Thanks. Will check it out.
Vancouverite here 👋 Smith has her priorities all wrong 🤨 when it comes to this situation and the separation issues.
CANADA 🇨🇦 STRONG 💪 🖕👊🏻
CANADA UNITED
this neo-liberal/maga/trumpler mentality are hostile towards nature, women's rights and all people's rights, shame on them. The only way that they get power is when folks choose not to vote or do not critically think concerning the candidates of choice. This is happening in the midst of this government attacking healthcare and wanting to separate from Canada and join trumpler's efforts to annex our country, as hitler did poland and putin the Ukraine. The post-covid world has seen a big shift to the right, fascism, here in our country! We all know how that turned out but in the meantime people suffered. We still have a chance here to stand up together as canadians and say no to this maple/maga attacks on our sovereignty, resources and lands. This is the time for all citizens to take a stand and become an activist, if you love our country, Canada! Elbows up folks and sign the petitions and be active in shutting Smith's maga government down.
https://youtu.be/iXuLrnDcV3A
This is a must watch Documentary on coal mining in the Eastern Slopes covering the history of the moratorium right up to Corb Lund’s sponsorship of the Water not Coal petition collecting signatures right now. Check out the Lethbridge Raging Grannies’ performance at the end.!We are out every week leading our Street Rally Friday noon hour protests at busy intersections drawing attention to the laundry list of issues, and
collecting Water not Coal petition signatures. The Granny Resistance is active here in Lethbridge and Pincher Creek, in the heart of the eastern slopes!
Thank you for sharing and keep up the good fight!
This petition should be open to all Canadians. What happens in Alberta affects us all.
Wishing High River and the people of Alberta success in their battle to save the headwaters of the Highwood River. Here we are fighting to save the headwaters of both the English Wabigoon and Turtle River systems in Northern Ontario where the nuclear industry wants to abandon their high level nuclear waste underground. It looks like our Prime minister Carney and his buddy formerly of Goldman Sachs, Tim Hodgson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources are trying to force a bunch of nuclear projects through, without proper scrutiny, like the Monark Reactors up in Peace River. At present this nuclear scheme is at phase 2 of an impact assessment however this process is being circumvented by handing all nuclear projects over to the The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission (CNSC) which is a notorious rubber stamper for the nuclear industry. If we look Carneys shares (now in a blind trust) the centerpiece of Brookfield's nuclear portfolio is its 51% majority stake in Westinghouse Electric Company.
Meanwhile on another critical minerals project (magnets for American jetfighters, F35's) for the Pentagon being shepherded through the approval process by Hodgson, Canadians through the Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB), provided $165 million in financing to Torngat Metals for the mine in northern Quebec. The Canada Infrastructure Bank previously approved a $55 million bridge loan for the project and is considering an additional loan for up to $500 million for access infrastructure. Looks like Canadians are being suckered into financing more projects to American billionaires close to Trump.
Recently, CBC's the fifth estate investigated Montreal-based Torngat Metals and its Strange Lake rare earth mining project in Nunavik, Quebec. The documentary, titled "Critical Threat," highlighted the project's massive scope, controversial U.S. political ties, and resistance from local Indigenous communities concerned about radioactive waste and caribou.
Good to see the pushback against the MAGA crowd that are trying to take over the Canadian Government from the Prime Minister down.
Wishing Jenny Yeremiy and High River, Alberta, Mayor Craig Snodgrass success in their battle against Danielle Smith’s coal mining scheme.
Again Charlie. We are dealing here with some MAGA Albertans, who like their American cousins, celebrate corruption and male masculinity. They celebrate and honour those who make the most money by any means possible , caring not for whom they hurt. MAGA corrupt maniacs, the most selfish , criminals on this planet.
Thanks Charlie. I absolutely support Corb Lund and the petition to stop, forever, any coal mining in Canada and the Rockies. This must not go through. All Albertan Indigenous members and their families must stop this ludicrous damaging project.
A teck coal project has never been turned down by an environmental minister who then took a great paying job at teck immediately after leaving their elected position, that needs to change.
I'll be in the river valley in Edmonton today with the rest of Corb's fans to sign the petition. If I were not going today, I was bound and determined to sign a petition.